Shaparak Khorsandi and Jordan Stephens talk to Adam Rutherford

Join comedian Shaparak Khorsandi and musician Jordan Stephens for a humorous, life-affirming and honest conversation about self-discovery and taking care of yourself and your mental health. Khorsandi and Stephens discuss difficult topics with warmth and openness. The pair will discuss their memoirs, how fame affected their approach to mental health, and how they have fostered a healthier outlook by embracing both the negatives and positives in their lives. Khorsandi’s book Scatter Brain recounts how she was finally diagnosed with ADHD in her 40s, enabling her to look back on her life with a new lens and make sense of everything from her attraction to toxic men to her regular bouts of burnout. Khorsandi has become a fixture on our TV screens, making appearances on shows such as Mock The Week and Live at the Apollo.

Stephens found fame in his teens and 20s as one half of musical duo Rizzle Kicks, but with that came a pattern of self-harm, hedonism, destructive coping mechanisms and heartbreak. He tells his story in Avoidance, Drugs, Heartbreak & Dogs, which also looks at what it means to be a modern man, advocating for vulnerability and openness. Stephens’ mental health campaign #IAMWHOLE reached over 120 million people online and was mentioned in the Houses of Parliament.