The sociologist and researcher, Josefa Sánchez Contreras, belongs to the Zoque people of Chimalapas, in Mexico. As a researcher, she writes about territorial defence, indigenous rights and the history of rebellions and colonialisms; she is the co-author of the book Colonialismo energético. As an activist, she is part of the Matza Collective, made up of young Zoques, which supports the defence of the rivers of the Chimalapas forest against open-cast mining megaprojects. Duiren Wagua is an indigenous filmmaker and producer of the Gunadule Nation of Panama, and has nine years of experience in the world of national cinema. He is the co-founder of Wagua Films, an organisation that works with production companies wishing to film in indigenous territories within Panama; he has created and given workshops for Colombian and Central American participants. They will talk to Emma Gómez Guerra.