Juan Manuel Restrepo talks Moisés Wasserman and Claudia Restrepo about key ways to improve educational systems, so important in the development of a country and its inhabitants. Claudia Restrepo, principal of Universidad EAFIT since 2021, has 20 years of experience in the design and management of social projects, especially those related to education, culture, citizenship and habitat. Moisés Wasserman (Colombia) has dedicated his life to science; with doctoral and postdoctoral studies in Biochemistry and Microbiology, he has a long list of published works and has won many awards. His most recent book, La educación en Colombia (2021), evaluates the educational systems and models that have been implemented in Colombia, in order to understand the best way to make progress in this vital area.