In Hasta aquí llegamos, Pedro Llosa explores the testimony of eleven people confronted with the identity, customs and beliefs of those who seek to build a personal and private utopia in Peru. In his book H& H. Escenas de la vida conyugal de Ollanta Humala y Nadine Heredia, Marco Sifuentes tells something more than the story of a couple: this is the portrait of the life of a country during the Ollanta Humala presidency. In conversation with Mabel Cáceres.