The Colombian economist, writer and engineer Alejandro Gaviria was a Minister of Health and Welfare between 2012 and 2018. his extraordinary book Hoy es siempre todavía narrates the personal history of his disease, an aggressive lymphoma which he was treated for. Gavira mixes in this essay his experience with the illness, his experiences as a minister, and establishes very inspiring links with the value of poetry and the arts for the development of human beings. In conversation with Yolanda Ruiz.